there's a lot of thickness and energy and subversive energy in those two spectrums in particular and certain other works, were some of the others are very interesting and important in their own way, that may be lacking density a richness that you do find in frederick douglass. so anyway. >> some texts are better than others. i am not [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] >> and however and dirt outside. the thing is kind of throw it out there and hope for the best. when i published a conviction back back in 81, price books back in. it's about 300 or 350, something like that. they can barely sell it to libraries. the price of the book as well. and yet, you have to publish a book. it's harder and harder to get reviews for university press books. even in scholarly journals, the whole thing is shifting, but part of it is the type on exchange of the digital revolution. so many people have academic laws and they publish online. is the day approaching when academic books only access? i'm not quite sure. what i do in my own books is to reach the online to people, maybe general readers, if you